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Sent: Friday, January 16, 1998 2:27 PM Subject: Long Run #9 Reminder Ok, first things first... I got back 6 responses from people that bought the Peak Pass — great! Combine this with a couple of more I know about and we should have some clout for 1999. As an aside, I noticed that on some of the replies the club e-mail looked messed up and some had =20s and other such nonsense characters in them. Hopefully, this post will be more readable to all of you. Apparently, there are some e-mail packages that do not like formatted e-mail hence this is just plain old text. Please let me know if you have any problems with these e-mails in the future — it is hard to fix what I do not know about.. This Sunday we are back on the Ute Indian Trail. For those that do not remember two weeks ago, once we get to No Name Creek (AKA French Creek (this is the last time for French Creek as I always feel silly writing the real name and then putting what people call it too)) we will turn right and head back up Barr Trail for a mile or so. The logic for this loop is that it gives us a chance to familiarize ourselves with the section of Barr Trail above No Name. We will mark the turn-off to the left to head down to the water pipe bridge. This run comes closer to our 2:30 goal unlike the ultra we put together last Sunday — although in fairness that was just some wicked snow! Larry Threlfall was nice enough to send me his thoughts on our loop from last week. I attached it to the end of this message. Top 3 things to do if you get lost on a Sunday long run 3) Use your GPS to figure out where you are 2) Use your cell phone to call for help 1) Use your laptop and the TOPO! map program to plot a path to your car Oh boy are these getting lame or what? I need help! Someone send me some running related top lists. This is supposed to be the Incline CLUB so if you want to send a running story that would be great too! Kevin A sent some info about another plane crash site and again Larry T’s run is also at the end of this post. Of course, and as always, the Incline Club page on my site also has some thoughts on our latest run/adventure. At any rate, as alluded to in the top list, I have been requested to bring maps for this loop and will try to remember to do so... See you Sunday @ 8am and remember --> be there or be fat! DON’T FORGET TO BRING WATER! Go out hard, when it hurts speed up... Matt Carpenter www.skyrunner.com ********* >From Larry Threlfall Wow, what a run. I did the loop this morning (1/15/98) that you guys did Sunday, 1-11-98. That is a tough run. After turning off of Barr Trail past No Name Creek I thought it was a straight shot to the COG. I kept coming to forks. I think at the first fork I went right because it was up and left was down. Later at another fork I went left (down) because right (up) seemed to just not be the right way. Shortly after that I encountered a switch back to the right but I kept going straight. I started to think that the switch back was actually the right branch from the last fork. I began to think that all the trails/roads went to the same place, the COG. Soon I came to the water pipe bridge, (Man that bridge is a trip.) and the chain with the sign saying to keep off or whatever. I said to the friend who was with me, “it has to be safe, Matt and 15 other people crossed it last Sunday"; still, it was kind of freaky and she didn’t like looking down. Soon we got to the COG, she turned back as she only wanted a medium length run and I went on. More signs saying do not trespass! Again, I thought “it must be ok, Matt does this loop all the time.” I guess the signs on the bridge and the COG help decrease liability for the forest service or whoever if someone gets hurt. I know they would not want us on the COG when it is running but assumed you knew they didn’t really care in the winter. Do they care or were we trespassing? Then the houses, more signs, a road leading to the houses. Do people live there all the time? There were cars there. At the big sign saying 4.X to summit and 4.X to Manitou (also gave elevation) I thought I was at mid mountain. I quickly realized I had not gone far enough when I saw no trail turning off to the right. After that point it got very windy and I was glad I had my microfiber, hooded jacket. Later mid mountain (Mountain View) was obvious. I figured out what you meant by people ran of the COG’s. The snow was not that deep but deep enough to cause loss of momentum with each step. Soon after turning I saw the old oven. I guess Russ discarded it and will take it down on the COG this summer. Man, the trail from there was rough (deep snow). I would never have found my way if you guys hadn’t been through and broken the trail Sunday. Some places were hard to run even though level. Soon I came to the metal sign that said Barr Camp (left) 0.5 miles. Silly me, I thought I had come to Barr Trail already. I went right and was thinking how much snow there was for that to be Barr Trail. Then, I saw the cabin and realized I had just come through the intersection; I wasn’t on Barr Trail. It seems I came to another fork shortly after that. Left went up and right went down. Both ways were well broken and I assumed both went to Barr Trail. I assumed however that going left (up) would put me out on Barr Trail higher up so I went that way. Very shortly I was at Barr Trail and the real 0.5 mile to Barr Camp sign. The run through the woods was fun, so beautiful and not really cold; however, I was glad to be back on a packed trail. On Barr Trail there was a good bit of ice or hard packed snow. I had only had one fall in the woods in the deep stuff. Between getting on Barr Trail and No Name Creek I probably fell, or nearly so, a half dozen times. Even below No Name Creek there were several icy spots. Your route description proved fine as I found my way without problems. I do think I was lucky getting from Barr Trail to the COG however because I did not know which way to go at the various forks. Do they all go to the COG.? ******** >From Kevin Ash, Ok, you’ve inspired me to run up to the plane wreck and check it out this afternoon. Not sure if you know about this one, but there’s another crash farther north in the Rampart Range. I’m pretty sure it’s up the Butler Canyon trail. You start from Palmer Lake. I had a friend leading that day so I don’t remember the names for sure, but could probably find it if I was out there. This one is an Air Force plane of some kind from WWII time if I remember correctly. Certainly not as big as a DC10, but much of it is still intact. Kind of cool to see...
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