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Sent: Friday, January 30, 1998 4:56 PM Subject: Long Run #11 Reminder Sunday February 1 @ 8:00am — back on the Ute! Be there and bring a friend. On that note, if you bring a friend or talk some unsuspecting stranger(s) into coming to one of the club long runs, PLEASE do your best to prepare them for the endeavor on which they are about to partake! Newbies getting lost or discouraged is not my idea of a club run. Do your best to describe the courses. Send them to the Incline Club FAQ — www.skyrunner.com/faq.htm Try to convince them to run with someone the first time even if it means THEY have to slow down — after they learn the loops they can go at their own pace. I only mention this because I am starting to hear some “the group is too fast” type crap. Yes, as a whole, the group is VERY fast — Incline Club members took top 3 at the last Winter Series race — but that was not true 10 weeks ago. Remember, most of us started with the shorter loops and were running a lot slower. Some of us even walked that first hill on the Ute loop:-O We built up to our current levels, we have BECOME fast. Bottom line: Newbies beware — we love you, but we are going to leave you! Don’t get discouraged, just keep coming out and keep getting faster:-) ******************** Q. What do web sites and runners on Barr Trail have in common? A. They both go down! Skyrunner.com went down for four days last week and my e-mail went with it — thanks to those that resent the bounced mail — sorry. ******************** Top 3 ways you know you spend too much time on-line (Sorry, I did not make these up this time) 3) You won’t work at a job that doesn’t have a modem involved. 2) Someone tells you a joke and you say “LOL.” 1) All of your friends have an @ in their names Go out hard, when it hurts speed up... Matt Carpenter http://www.skyrunner.com The tagline is a joke but if you pull it off I promise you will win every race you enter! ******************** >From Matt VonThun I tried the “Ute loop” yesterday (Saturday morning). I attempted to follow your description, but I’m not sure I was successful. Well I guess I was successful in the sense that I got a nice run in and had fun, but I may have been off route. Below is a description of what I did, if you have any suggestions that would improve the route let me know. I started out at the base of the incline and went up that dirt road to the right. I stayed on what I thought was the main path, but some how I ended up on the water pipe route, or so I assume because it ran next to a water pipe for a mile of so. When I hit a dirt road I went left (west) until I hit a bigger dirt road which had a sign indicating the distance to Long Ranch and Cascade. I took a left on that road and another quick left on a dirt road that kept going up what I think was Mt. Manitou. Eventually I ended up at the experimental forest sign where Barr Trail turned into an ice skating rink. Instead of going on Barr, I took the small parallel trail that led me ice-free to the top of the Incline and then ran back to my car the same way we would after an Incline workout. The whole thing took a little under two hours, so I may have missed a loop or something. Next Saturday I am going to try the COG route. That route sounds a little trickier for a long run newbie like myself. (He came close! As you know we start by heading East around the shed at the base of the Incline, not North next to the Incline. They come together about half way out the Ute Indian Trail. As far as the time — that is about right for that loop but that was our December loop — we now turn right when we get to No Name and head up Barr Trail instead of down. I like what Matt V did to avoid the “ice rink” and think that is what we will do too!) ******************** >From Kevin Ash I had a couple of ideas for alternative runs that avoid doing multiple out-and-back’s to No Name Creek and the ice on Barr: #1 Ute Indian Trail -> Rd Right on the Rd, rather than left Down to Waldo Canyon trail head Do Waldo Canyon (counter clockwise!!!!) Back up the Rd Finish the Ute loop like we originally did it (i.e. don’t go up Barr, but do climb the big hill to Barr) (a little longer than we’re used to, but Sunday we should be adding time anyway — Feb???) Waldo Canyon is clear of ice and snow except in the canyon by the creek where it’s quite bad, but only for a short way. We’ll miss some altitude, but can avoid the ice and it’s a cool loop with plenty of climb. #2 (I can’t lead this one, but a friend recommended it) Ute Indian Trail -> Rd. Left on Rd, but skip the jeep road and go to Cascade. Go up a very steep trail to Severy Creek trail. Do Severy Creek trail(probably have to cut trail). Make some kind of loop, or just do an out-and-back. I haven’t studied this on the PPA yet so I don’t know about the return routes. #3 Out and back on the Cog (either from bottom or from the water pipe) There’s good running all the way up to Windy point at 12,000’. Then as you get into the bowl, it becomes very hard packed snow and you risk sliding all the way down and hurting/killing yourself. I ran up to this point last Thursday. (Several of us were discussing the possibility of changing the COG loop until some of the ice melts away — 31 falls out of 19 runners is a scary thought. The Ute loop is fine because we go UP Barr Trail and come down via the water pipe bridge road. However, as most of you know, the COG loop is very bad on the way back down to No Name Creek! Let me know if you have any thoughts on this. If the ice looks bad for our next COG loop we could hang a left off of the COG at the house and run on some of those awesome dirt roads that lead to some beautiful reservoirs. An out and back will avoid the ice AND still let us get up into the thin air.) ******************** >From Larry Miller 3. I have a good base already and can sleep in. 2. If it’s icy I don’t run, butt sliding may be faster than running, but it hurts. 1. Blood letting went out in the dark ages. (Larry did not send a title but it looks like top 3 reasons NOT to do the Sunday run? Larry “psycho race director, run-them-up-and-down-creeks- give-out-awards-to-best-injury-and-biggest-cry-baby” Miller down on a little winter fun — say it isn’t so! ******************** Also From Kevin Ash I assumed you knew I bought one; but since I’m not on the list... I got #1. (ARRRRGGGGGGGGGG! Want to trade? Please Please Please. I promise I won’t push you off of the cirque if you do!) ******************** WWW post 1/25/98 19 and 1/2 came out making this the new club PR. Ben, Bob and Sheila were the newbies today. The Incline Club also got two new members because both Kelly and Nate came to their forth club workout. We got treated(?) to some serious wind going up the COG making it a true relief to turn right into the woods at Mountain View (10,012’). However, the real fun(?) was still waiting because all the ice we saw last week running UP the Barr Trail was as bad as we thought coming DOWN it this week. 31 falls were recorded with Kelly and Glenn being the only people confirmed to have NOT fallen out of the 16 runners I spoke with! Terrie won the fall-down award with 5 falls. Kevin C, Larry and Thom took second with 4 falls each. Larry wins the blood award because both of his knees oozed the red stuff. To add insult to injury, he took his blood hit on the last switch-back before finishing and there was no snow/ice involved — just a magic rock. In other news the Incline Club was well represented at the 2nd Winter Series Run with Dan, Thom and Larry taking the top 3 spots — congratulations! Notice that two of the top runners also took some of the top fall-down spots. I wonder if there is a correlation there? See you next week — be there or be fat. ******************** Pikes Peak Passes (let me know when you get one or when you know your #) Kevin # 1 Matt C # 2 Terrie # 3 Matt V # 4 Keith # 11 Carol # ? Cindy # ? Glen # ? Larry T # ? ******************** Misc. Stats 29 different people and 2 dogs have come to the Sunday long runs. 35 different people have run up the Incline as a club workout. 39 people are on the e-mail list.
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