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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:48 PM
Subject: Incline Club V6 LR #8
Hi ICers,
That we had 78 (a record by 5) last Sunday was incredible! That the top 59 on the workout board made it was unbelievable! In other words not one person changed positions in the top 59. Dont know if it was the somewhat warmer weather, the end of the holidays or a bunch of New Years resolutions but keep it up! We will all get better together:-) I got several reports of the Waldo/LRR loop being a killer. That it is:-O Now that the runs are longer dont forget that pacing becomes even more important! It does not make sense to try to go longer at the same pace as the shorter run. Work into it! Remember we start training so far out so we dont have to rush. Be smart, be safe!
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NEXT RUN:
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Sunday, January 13, 8:00 a.m. meet at Soda Springs Park
Run up the Barr Trail to the 1/2 mile sign. Turn left and run out to
Mountain View on the COG. Return via Barr Camp or head straight back down.
2.5-3.5 hours. If it would take longer turn around earlier.
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ICers WRITE:
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Jonathan Veteto writes:
I forgot the rules for doing races on a Sunday. If I do a 10k snowshoe (the
trek to 10 mile) on the 20th, would that count? Never done just a snowshoe
race and think it would be fun. Let me know. If it doesnt cut it as a long workout then you will see my smiling face at the park :)
(MC adds: Yes, snowshoe races are considered off-road and therefore a 10K will do it. Remember the * rules are posted on the club page. www.inclineclub.com)
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Glenn Grams writes:
Howdy. I came down and ran today. I missed the group and you I guess at
8:00AM by about ten minutes. I couldnt remember the Ute Trail Head and
remembering some of the reports of lost runners...so out of fear of being
alone on a long run in new surroundings, I reverted to the only trial I knew
for certain and went up to Barr Camp. Happened upon Craig there who was
having hot chocolate with Jay (cabin keeper?, man with the beard) and Craig
was talking up a storm...refilled my water and said my hellos and headed
back down the Barr Trail. Ran into Rick coming down Ruxton and hung out with
Kees, Andy, David others for about an hour and then headed back up home.
Sorry I missed ya. My time was 3:12 up and down, so if that qualifies as a
long run, then put me down. Probably wont see ya til spring but will be
following the reports of IC and doing my solo long runs up here til then.
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Steve in Korea now Bremner writes:
I got both the lost and the found emails in the same batch, otherwise I
would have held down the southern half of the Korean peninsula for you!
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Joel Jenkins writes:
How far is (was) the run on Sunday? We are running the Frosty in Feb and
want to see what our pace is at altitude and at an incline (other than slow") :)
(MC adds: With some rounding I would say SSP to UPT .75, UPT 2.75, UPT to Waldo .5, Waldo 7, LRR 4, NN to SSP 3.75 for about 18.75 with a highpoint of 9,165 but again that is just shooting out #s really fast.)
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Bob and Sherry Wagner write:
Just a quick question about your screw shoe idea. I dont have a lot to
spend on running shoes, so I take good care of them. But I want to run in
the snow and I like your idea. My question is, doesnt screwing screws into
the sole of a shoe allow moisture to get up into the sole and rot it from
the inside? Hope you can answer. Thanks for the time.
(MC adds: Never heard of this being an issue. Rubber does not rot and not much water is going to get in the hole as it is pretty much self sealing when you take the screw out. Anybody else?)
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Sid Rubey writes:
Good job on scoping out the domain name!!
(MC adds: I have www.inclineclub.com forwarding to the club page if you want to start using it. That will work until we get some content for the site. I need volunteers to help me with some pages for the site. First task is to archive 6 years worth of club e-mails and make some map pages. Any takers? No, one person does not need to do it all I wont overload you I promise;-)
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Elizabeth Ahola writes:
I think that the ICers are 1 notch closer to D.U.R.T. Sadly, I havent been
able to make a Sunday run since my marathon in December and try to follow
the workouts 1-2 days later. Today, January 1st, I decided that I would do
the never attempted Ute/LRR/Barr loop. The somewhat visible tracks (snowing)
left by Sundays run was a reassurance that I was going the right way and
oddly comforting.
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RACE INFORMATION:
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Robert and Linda Ronas write:
Linda and I are in charge of registration for the Winter Series. We find
ourselves in need of 2 3 warm bodies to assist us.
If anyone in the club would be interested in helping with registration for the series, we could surely use them.
Below are the details:
Dates: 1/12/02, 1/26/02, 2/9/02, 2/23/02
Times: Show up by 9:00 (races start at 10:00 and 10:15)
If they wish to run the series and help with registration, they will be compd for their entries that means they get to run for FREE, FREE, FREE!!!
If you could send an e:mail out to the club, we would appreciate it very much.
Anyone interested, please contact us ASAP (first race is this Saturday!) at one (or more) of the following:
668.8385 Roberts work
668.8126 Lindas work
(e-mail address removed for www posting) Roberts work
(e-mail address removed for www posting) Lindas work
590.7196 home [both of us ;-) ]
(e-mail address removed for www posting) home
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Nancy Hobbs-Adams forwards:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 3, 2002
The Withlacoochee 100 Km on Feb. 16, 2002 is offering a flat, fast course, incentives, and prize money. This race is a good opportunity for ultrarunners to attempt to run a qualifying time for 2002 100 Km Team selection. The 2002 selection period closes on February 16, 2002. ( The 2002 100 Km Team Selection Procedure and Standards can be seen at www.cerritos.edu/lgersitz/MUT/2002_Team_Selection.html or at www.americanultra.org)
The Withlacoochee 100 Km offers runners not only a fast course but additional incentives and prize money as well. If a runner has met any of the times standards set by the race management (listed below) within the last year, or if he or she does so at this years Withlacoochee, he or she will be compensated as follows:
Men:
Sub 7:00 hrs Travel stipend ($100) + lodging(one night) + entry
Sub 7:30 Lodging (one night)+ entry
Sub 8:00 Entry
Women:
Sub 8:30 Travel stipend ($100)+ lodging(one night) + entry
Sub 9:00 Lodging(one night)+ entry
Sub 9:30 Entry
Prize money Men & Women:
1st-$300
2nd-$200
3rd-$150
4th-$100
5th/6th-$50
7th/10th-$25
The only requirement is that entries and room reservations MUST be made prior to 1/26 to be eligible for the lodging payment. Entries / reservations received after 1/26 will be eligible for travel and entry stipends only.
Any questions regarding the race can be directed to Race Director Miles Krier at (e-mail address removed for www posting) or (727) 460-0214.
If you have any other questions, contact Lorraine Gersitz, MUT Running Council, at (e-mail address removed for www posting) or 714-526-5340.
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NON R REPORTS:
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As some of you may remember Craig Hess had a goal of 12 marathons last year.
Well he did it (thanks to RDing his own race while stationed in Turkey
which was in last weeks email) and here are the 3 marathons he ran while we
were in off season mode. Two of them he did in one weekend!
Craig Hess reports:
Albuquerque Marathon and Berlin Trip Report
Well September 11th threw a wrench in the marathon schedule. Unfortunately the Air Force Marathon was cancelled. A real shame as it would have been a great event. And so I was left to scramble for a replacement September marathon. Not a whole lot of options by mid-Sept. I ended up driving to ABQ to check the New Mexico block. The event wasnt anything too spectacular.at all. But Marathon number 30 and State number 20 are in the books. I did hear about an event called the Bataan Memorial Death March (Marathon.) Sounded pretty neat. (in a painful sort of way) There are actually still some veterans who show up for it. Not for much longer I imagine though. Its down at the White Sand missile Range. Check out www.wsmr.army.mil/paopage/pages/bmdm/index.htm (works sometimes) or www.marathonguide.com. Its 14 April next year.
After the ABQ run I jumped into the car for a six-hour drive home, showered, packed and left the next AM for Berlin for 12 days. Slight improvement over the city of ABQ. (nothing personal to my friends from that area.) The Berlin trip was fantastic. I met my dad for five days as his old military organization had a reunion there and the rest of the time was just spent kicking around. Had planned to hit some other towns but Berlin kept me busy the entire time. Just one sidetrip to the Spreewald area south of Berlin. Beautiful area.
The transformation of central Berlin (Potsdamer Platz) over the past 11 years has just been incredible. Berlin and Prague remain my favorite cities in Europe. Great sites and great eats. Now just hoping to shed most of the wurst before Indianapolis. As of now, Im off to Indianapolis for their marathon this coming Saturday. Nine down, three to go. Details (what few there are) below.
Tschuss,
Craig
Albuquerque Marathon 30 Sep 01
Entry Fee $28
Link www.dukecitymarathon.com
Course BORING. (but it beats watching the Redskins lose again) Out and
back along a bike path. Very flat with just a few small bumps at the turn
around.
Expo Lame.
Medal Decent.
T-Shirt Black polo.
Crowds Huh?? This reminded me of Wyoming except there we were in the
middle of nowhere. Here we were in the middle of a huge city. Not well
supported.
Agua Very limited. The race director didnt even know how far apart the
water stations were. And the rumors of power gel along the way. just
that.rumors.
Start temp Starts at 0645. Hello. Mr. Race Director the sun is already up
and were in New Mexico. Got hot.
Overall impression Just pray the Air Force Marathon isnt cancelled again.
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Craig Hess Reports:
Indianapolis and Louisville Trip Report
Freakish weekend...the Washington Redskins won and I managed two marathons. Hopefully the former will be repeated soon. I can assure you the latter wont be. As the months go on, the marathon times get slower and apparently I get more stupider. (For my foreign readers learning English...please ignore last sentence...improper grammar usage. For my friends from the South.everythings OK...just keep reading.)
My last five marathons were all between 5,000 and 14,000 feet so I was looking forward to running below 5,000 for a change. Travel plans in November forced me to double up in October. The original plan was to run the Indianapolis Marathon on Saturday and if I felt good, run the Louisville Marathon on Sunday. Apparently Plan B was to run on Saturday and even if I felt like crap, run on Sunday. Heres the recap, one at a time.
I decided to still run Indy even though I dorked (sprained) my ankle in Albuquerque three weeks earlier. Did the Priceline thing on Monday night for airfare, hotel, and car. (Too convenient) Felt OK on Saturday morning but one mile into it my ankle was hurting. By mile 18 my 3:30 started to fade into an ugly 3:49. Was forced to walk (gimp) quite a bit. The course was decent though. Began at old Fort Harrison just to the east of Indy. Ft Harrison is (was) a very nice installation with some awesome architecture, beautiful grounds and even a golf course. Would have been one of the nicer Army installations. Was probably closed because it was approaching Air Force standards.
Upon crossing the finish line I went straight to the medical tent and began icing the ankle. Continued the ice/heat treatment on the drive to Louisville and after several hours felt remarkably...the same. Made it with 15 minutes to spare to sign up for Louisville. Or so I thought. It turns out its possible to drive 100 miles due south and gain an hour. Despite being late, the race director was cool and allowed me to register and pay the next morning if I woke up and found my ankle was good enough to run. (Now that doesnt happen at Boston or Chicago.)
Not a whole lot of healing happens in one night but I drove to the race site anyway, wrapped up the ankle, hemmed and hawed for a bit and then paid to run 15 minutes before race start. I picked up where I left off the day before...slow and in pain. Gave myself permission to suck (up to 5 hours) and began the marathon. First time I ever bonked as the gun went off. Decided to walk one minute at every mile marker. And let me tell you...theres nothing like walking at Mile 1 for an ego-buster. But I settled in for a day towards the back of the pack. Ended up mastering the art of the shuffle and set a new personal worst at 4:28.
I figure I have about 60 days before my next marathon. Off to Turkey for several months. Im imagining a few travel restrictions while over there so my last marathon could very well be 104 laps around the Incirlik track if push comes to shove. Yes...sometimes I curse the day this marathon-a-month plan was hatched but Im very excited about the deployment to Turkey.
As for the non-running part of the weekend, I was pretty impressed with downtown Indy. Small but very clean with some interesting architecture - Magnificent capitol building and very impressive war memorial in the center of downtown. Louisville has some very nice old stuff (sort of reminds me of parts of Chicago) but most of the older buildings are in serious need of a facelift. Hopefully it will all be restored. Not very impressive as it stands today. I could definitely tell I was back in the Midwest Lots of flag waving and I saw maybe 3 imported cars the whole weekend.
So.the weekend ends with me earning a huge check in the Poor Judgment" block, but if nothing else it was good mental training for Leadville. 52 miles (84K) in one weekend. Im taking a few days off. Eleven down, one to go. Course details below.
Ciao,
Craig
Indianapolis Marathon 20 Oct 01
Entry Fee $25 ($50 for the procrastinators)
Link www.indianapolismarathon.com
Course The course wasnt too bad. Scenic about half the way. Mostly
flat but lots of turns. Not really a PR course.
Expo Essentially N/A.
Medal Less than average.
T-Shirt Extreme Red, White, and Blue. Almost too patriotic.
Crowds None to be found.
Aid stations Water and Powerade about every 1.5 miles, plenty of water.
Power Gel at one point.
Start temp High 40s at 0700 climbing to low 70s.
Overall impression Not too bad. About 900 runners. The half-marathon and
relay makes it feel a bit bigger. Shouldnt float to the top of your hit
parade though.
Louisville Marathon 21 Oct 01
Entry Fee $25 (Twice that for idiots who ran the day before)
Link www.louisvillemarathon.org
Course Where to begin...not only boring but dangerous. First course I
ever ran where we had to contend with not only oncoming traffic but also
traffic coming up behind us too. Lots of unprotected intersections to cross
and some were sort of busy. There were about 3 nice miles through
residential and park areas and about 6 miles nice miles along the river.
But the rest was extremely blah. Choice blah miles included the Louisville
ghetto and the dilapidated warehouse district. Flat but certainly not fast.
Expo N/A.
Medal Less than average.
T-Shirt Long sleeve black.
Crowds Fewer than the zero who showed up the day before.
Aid stations Water and Ultima about every two miles. Manned by some great
Cub Scouts and Civil Air Patrol kids!
Start temp Mid 50s at 0800 climbing to low 70s. Pretty warm.
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Nancy Hobbs-Adams reports:
On New Years Day Jeff and I drove about 30 miles to Fairfax, CA located at
the base of Mt. Tamalpais to run with a group on their 7th annual trek to
the summit and back. For the 10:30 start it was a drizzling, damp, foggy,
muggy 50-degree morning. About 15 of us gathered at Lake Lagunitas at the
base of Mt. Tam. We paid $5/car to park. Its typical out here to pay to
park at many of the trail heads from $1-$5 or more. We set off on a gravel
fire road and then joined up with a single-track leaf-strewn trail for about
3/4 mile and back to the fire road. It was then rolling for the next mile or
so and then mostly up for the next 5 miles where we joined up on pavement
for a quick, steep uphill to a visitor center at the base of Mt. Tam. By
this time it was raining pretty hard and the fog was thick and soupy. We
then ran up about 20 railroad tie steps, then up a single-track rocky
section (not quite as steep as the 16-Golden Stairs) to the 2571-foot summit
where there is a ranger station. It was pretty windy at the summit and we
stayed just long enough to have a group photo taken (and to start shaking as
we cooled off everyone was soaked). My summit time was about 58 minutes
and I was 6th to the top Jeff was with the leaders in about 52 minutes.
The downhill was a bit rocky to start (we went down a different route to
make this a loop course). We made our way back to the visitor center, had a
drink of water, ran on pavement for about 3/4 mile to join up with a new
single-track trail. We still had some uphill running. It was a mixture of
single-track and fire roads to the finish at Lake Lagunitas (about 48
minutes of running). It was a great course and a nice change from the muddy
clay we get on the trails in the East Bay where we live. Our shoes were
clean on this run though very, very drenched! Jeff and I will head back for
the run in the spring when we can actually see the vistas.
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WWW POST:
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1/6/02 The first run of the new year set a new club record when 78 people
showed for the Sunday long run! The top 59 people on the workout board made
it which is incredible in itself. The new month also marked the first
increase in the distance of our long runs and many accomplished the
Waldo/LRR double. No small feat! Some that have been doing out/backs bagged
one of the whole loops for the first time as well. It is so cool to see the
progress.
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USELESS BANTER:
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Go out hard, when it hurts speed up...
Matt Carpenter
www.skyrunner.com
Barr Trail Mountain Race
www.runpikespeak.com
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